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Southeast Valley judge explains adult laws to kiddies

May 2, 2014

Arizona Republic

Judge tells kiddies to watch out for draconian police state laws!!!!!

A driver younger than 21 need not be legally impaired to lose a license. Blood-alcohol content can be minuscule, or 0.001 for example, he said. [The judge seems to forget that law was recently declared unconstitutional by the Arizona Supreme Court - at least how it relates to marijuana]

Students were reminded that if they're 18 and involved romantically with someone younger than 18, they are vulnerable to trouble [Translation - as soon as you turn 18 you can be sent to prison for having sex with your 17 year old boy or girl friend]

if someone sends certain photos of someone younger than 18, "we're talking about child pornography," he said. "If you are 18, you can be sentenced to 12 years for every picture [Having 10 dirty pictures of your 17 year old lover will get you 120 years in prison]


Southeast Valley judge explains adult laws to those turning 18

Luci Scott, The Republic | azcentral.com 10:29 a.m. MST April 28, 2014

Seniors at Chandler High School got a message April 21 about turning 18: When you become an adult, the law takes you seriously.

They heard about renting an apartment, buying a car, having a relationship with someone younger than 18 and risking the hazards of drinking if not yet 21.

"I'm not making moral judgments on your character," said Keith Frankel, justice of the peace of the San Marcos Justice Court, which covers Chandler and Sun Lakes. "I'm just telling you what the law is. Hopefully, you'll make the right decision." [Well really he is making moral judgments on their character by telling them to obey these draconian police state laws]

It was eye-opening to the students. After his talk, as they filed out, Mahala Grohman said Frankel's message reached her.

"For me, it validated that I don't want to go down that (hazardous) path," she said.

Brecarea Hunt said Frankel's message about drinking and driving especially impressed her.

"You just don't want to be that one person that survives and kills a whole bunch of people," she said.

Jessica Wenzel said Frankel's explanation of contracts also was important.

Frankel reminded seniors in teacher Ron Tanner's government class about the hazards of drinking and driving by recounting a case of an 18-year-old student at Arizona State University who partied, drank alcohol, slid behind the wheel of her car and got into an accident in which three people died.

"She is now in the Department of Corrections and will be there at least the next 30 years," Frankel said.

A student whispered, "Oh, my God."

"She was probably a great kid and had her whole life in front of her," Frankel said. "She made the wrong decision and destroyed her life."

A driver younger than 21 need not be legally impaired to lose a license. Blood-alcohol content can be minuscule, or 0.001 for example, he said. [That law was recently declared unconstitutional by the Arizona Supreme Court - at least how it relates to marijuana]

He also told students that 18-year-olds can get credit and debit cards for which they — not their parents — are responsible. Those cards, as well as renting an apartment and buying a car, are all minefields that can destroy finances and credit if not handled responsibly.

In Arizona, a tenant can be evicted in 15 days, among the fastest times in the nation, and a tenant can be liable for the portion of the rent owed by roommates. For example, he said, three young people could rent an apartment, but one moves to Kentucky to become a country-Western singer. If the two remaining can no longer afford the place and move out, either of them could be taken to court and owe thousands of dollars.

Another pitfall lies in having irresponsible guests at an apartment. If there is underage drinking, for example, and someone breaks a window, the leaseholder can be evicted.

"Be aware that if anybody comes to your apartment, you're legally liable," Frankel said.

Also, Frankel said, he constantly sees cases in court in which someone bought an overpriced car he or she couldn't afford, defaulted on the loan, lost the car and destroyed his or her credit.

"Don't burden yourself with debt at an early age," he warned.

Frankel admonished the group to think twice about what they put on social-media sites, such as Facebook, because those pages are being looked at by college recruiters, coaches, employers and those who hand out scholarships.

One girl was convicted of an extreme DUI after crossing the border on a return trip from Mexico.

"She looked 12 years old. I didn't want to put her in Tent City," Frankel said.

But neither she nor her parents would admit to her previous drinking escapades, even though there were three Facebook photos of her drinking during an eight-month period. Based on those photos, she spent 10 days in jail.

Students were reminded that if they're 18 and involved romantically with someone younger than 18, they are vulnerable to trouble with the law if the relationship goes sour and the minor seeks revenge. [When you turn 18 you can be sent to prison for having sex with your 17 year old partner]

By the same token, if someone sends certain photos of someone younger than 18, "we're talking about child pornography," he said. "If you are 18, you can be sentenced to 12 years for every picture, and you will be registered as a sex offender." [Having 10 dirty pictures of your 17 year old lover will get you 120 years in prison]

Among the new rights and responsibilities of turning 18 is voting.

Frankel asked for a show of hands of who in the class was 18 and then asked them how many had registered to vote. Not one had.

"Why would you give up one of the most fundamental rights and responsibilities, to vote?" he asked. "If you're 18, do not give up one of the most sacred rights, the right to be heard." [Yea, like other adults really give a kr*p about voting. In a typical election only about 5 percent of the registered voters actually vote. And probably less then half of all adults actually register to vote]